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‹ An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business

National children's hospital oversight

Summary

Clifford-Lee and Murnane O'Connor challenged the Leader over HSE and departmental oversight on the project board and accused him of not answering the central question. The Chair insisted he had the right to respond in his own way while maintaining order.

Paul Coghlan An Leas-Chathaoirleach Fine Gael

We will not get into that matter now.

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Lorraine Clifford-Lee Fianna Fáil

Why is the Leader not addressing the central issue?

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Jerry Buttimer Fine Gael

The Senators can accuse me of all things again if they want to.

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Paul Coghlan An Leas-Chathaoirleach Fine Gael

Will Senators on the Opposition benches, please, be quiet while the Leader-----

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Lorraine Clifford-Lee Fianna Fáil

No. The Leader needs to tell us why-----

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Paul Coghlan An Leas-Chathaoirleach Fine Gael

No. If the Senator is trying to make a point of order, she is not.

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Lorraine Clifford-Lee Fianna Fáil

-----there was a representative from the HSE and the Department of Health-----

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Paul Coghlan An Leas-Chathaoirleach Fine Gael

Is the Senator raising a point of order? She is not.

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Lorraine Clifford-Lee Fianna Fáil

-----on the board and they were not reporting back to the Minister. That is the question.

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Paul Coghlan An Leas-Chathaoirleach Fine Gael

The Senator cannot correct the Leader when he is responding. She is out of order.

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Lorraine Clifford-Lee Fianna Fáil

He is misleading the people again.

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Paul Coghlan An Leas-Chathaoirleach Fine Gael

I am trying to hear everybody.

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Lorraine Clifford-Lee Fianna Fáil

Can he answer that question?

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Paul Coghlan An Leas-Chathaoirleach Fine Gael

I cannot have the Senator telling me or the House something about someone.

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Lorraine Clifford-Lee Fianna Fáil

Can he answer that question?

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Paul Coghlan An Leas-Chathaoirleach Fine Gael

No. The Senator cannot do it. She is out of order.

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Jennifer Murnane O'Connor Fianna Fáil

We are not out of order.

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Paul Coghlan An Leas-Chathaoirleach Fine Gael

I decide what is in order. The Leader is responding to comments that have been made-----

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Lorraine Clifford-Lee Fianna Fáil

He is not responding-----

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Paul Coghlan An Leas-Chathaoirleach Fine Gael

Perhaps in responding-----

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Jennifer Murnane O'Connor Fianna Fáil

He said we were scaremongering. We are not. He is confusing people.

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