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‹ An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business

Nurses dispute, JobPath and housing

Summary

The Leader then addressed the nurses' strike, urging talks and rejecting a free-for-all on public sector pay. He responded to concerns on JobPath, said housing matters should be raised separately, and replied to Gallagher on CPR training and Warfield on abortion-law implementation.

That has nothing to do with it. We are being blackmailed. The public is being blackmailed.

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Paul Coghlan An Leas-Chathaoirleach Fine Gael

That is totally disingenuous. I cannot control any of the Senators' individual contributions.

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Five Senators raised the issue of the nurses dispute. I will make the same point I made last week and the whole time. All of us value, respect and admire the work being done in hospitals and the healthcare system by nurses. Not one person I know of wants to see any person, be it a nurse, teacher, porter or bus driver, on strike. Today there is a pathway to reopen the talks between all sides. I hope those concerned can re-engage and have meaningful dialogue. Despite the one-dimensional view of Senator Gavan on the public sector pay agreement, we cannot have a free-for-all on public sector pay.

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The Minister is in breach.

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One cannot have a free-for-all. That might be the model Sinn Féin might like to have and subscribe to, but one cannot have a free-for-all. There is one public sector pay deal. There is a knock-on effect if it is breached for one union.

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David P.B. Norris Senator David Norris Independent

And the other unions are just queuing up-----

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Correct. The Government, as the Taoiseach and the Minister for Health have outlined, is open to meeting. I invite and encourage all concerned to sit around the table and engage.

Senator Conway-Walsh raised the issue of JobPath. It is worth noting that there are 41,000 people employed full time and 5,000 part time. The level of complaint about JobPath is around 0.41%. If the acknowledged costs are what the Senator says they are, work needs to be done on them. If what she is saying is correct, it beggars belief, but I am not sure it is correct.

I join Senators Ruane and Higgins in referring to Internet Safety Day and the report published last week on sex education. I commend all involved in the Oireachtas education committee. It is important that the curriculum be reformed in the development of sex education for young people. I hope we can continue the ongoing work. To be fair, it was initiated by Ruairí Quinn and continued by the former Minister, Deputy Bruton, and the current Minister, Deputy McHugh. I hope the development can happen.

With reference to the Data Protection Act, I do not have a commencement date for Senators Higgins and Ruane, but I am sure we can liaise with the Department on the issue.

Senator Bacik raised the issue of the Parental Leave (Amendment) Bill. It will be before the House tomorrow and it is best to leave it until tomorrow.

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I believe an answer of "Yes" or "No" was sought.

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Paul Coghlan An Leas-Chathaoirleach Fine Gael

The Leader should be allowed to respond.

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I have noted that the Leader has not responded, in fact.

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Paul Coghlan An Leas-Chathaoirleach Fine Gael

I cannot control how anyone contributes.

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Senator Marie-Louise O'Donnell raised the issue of housing. We had the Minister for Housing, Planning and Local Government in the House last week for a housing debate. He will be in today to conclude his remarks. My advice to the Senator on the point she raised on housing is to put a Commencement matter before the House.

On the Assisted Human Reproduction Bill, my information is that the heads were approved on 3 October. The Senator raised the issue last week and I share her views. There was pre-legislative scrutiny on 19 December and 17 January and it is continuing. Work is being done on the Bill that is not as easy as it first appeared. That is the information I have, but I will endeavour to obtain more for the Senator.

With reference to Parts 2 and 3 of the Children and Family Relationships Act, work is still ongoing. The Act will be commenced as soon as possible. All of us share the views expressed by the Senator on both matters.

Senator O'Reilly made one of the best contributions to the Order of Business when he spoke about reform of the Central Applications Office, CAO, process. There is complete merit in what he suggested in that regard. Having spent 20 years in the classroom, I saw the benefit of a non-traditional leaving certificate pathway for young people to college. I know of some young people who have done the leaving certificate applied and gone to college through it. Senator O'Reilly's idea about the allocation of points for social work and social action, as well as participating in sports and cultural activities, is pursued in other jurisdictions and has its merits. It deserves to be heard and debated. I commend the Senator in that regard.

We will endeavour to find time for a debate on the Shane O'Farrell case. On Senator Norris' point about an architect, again I suggest he request that it be taken as a Commencement matter to give it a public airing.

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David P.B. Norris Senator David Norris Independent

In the meantime, will the Leader raise it with the Minister?

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If the Senator gives me the details I will.

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David P.B. Norris Senator David Norris Independent

I will. I thank the Leader.

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Senator Gallagher raised the issue of CPR training in secondary schools in counties Cavan and Monaghan. It is an important issue which needs to be addressed urgently. We have seen defibrillators put in place in rural and urban settings. We need to set up a process whereby we can train more people, especially young people, in CPR. I commend all those involved.

Senator Warfield raised the issue highlighted in The Times, Ireland edition, about anti-abortion protests. It is important that we have respectful implementation of the new law of the land. That requires respect for different viewpoints. It is disappointing that the types of activity referred to are being carried out. I know that there will be a debate during the week in the Oireachtas on these types of protest. I do not believe anybody should be allowed to protest at a maternity hospital or a doctor’s surgery. The dignity and privacy of citizens going about their business, for whatever reason, should be respected. Women who might be in a difficult or vulnerable position should not have to endure such barrages of protest. I will try to have the Minister to come to the House to discuss the matter.

As I said last week, I thank Senator Humphreys for his patience on his request that the Minister for Health attend the House to discuss the question of Alzheimer's disease and dementia. I also apologise to him. He has been exceptionally fair on this matter. We have endeavoured to have a debate on it. I hope the Minister met the Senator. I will endeavour to have tomorrow a date for such a debate. If I do not, the Senator will be quite right to propose an amendment to the Order of Business on the matter.

Senator Wilson raised a matter about the Defence Forces. We will have that debate in due course.

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