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‹ An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business

Shane O'Farrell debate timing

Summary

Norris pressed the Leader on whether the Government would oppose a motion on Shane O'Farrell, and repeated confusion followed over whether the debate would happen today or tomorrow. The Chair and several Senators tried to clarify that the Leader was offering an hour’s debate the next day, without a Minister if necessary.

David P.B. Norris Senator David Norris Independent

The Government will oppose it tomorrow.

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No. I am offering Senator Norris an hour's debate tomorrow, without the Minister's presence, to allow the Senator the opportunity in the Seanad to have-----

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David P.B. Norris Senator David Norris Independent

I am asking the Leader whether the Government will oppose the motion tomorrow.

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I am making an offer to the Senator of an hour's debate tomorrow on the Senator's motion without the Minister's presence.

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David P.B. Norris Senator David Norris Independent

Yes.

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I cannot answer the Senator's question right now.

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David P.B. Norris Senator David Norris Independent

The Leader does not know whether the Government will oppose the motion.

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As of right now, I do not, but I will make-----

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David P.B. Norris Senator David Norris Independent

I see. I thank the Leader. That is helpful.

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I am trying to be helpful to the Senator in terms of having-----

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David P.B. Norris Senator David Norris Independent

I know.

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Denis O'Donovan An Cathaoirleach Fianna Fáil

Perhaps if the Leader could clarify his position on tomorrow morning's Order of Business, the Senators could decide-----

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The motion, as far as I understand, is just to have a debate on the Shane O'Farrell case. Is that correct?

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David P.B. Norris Senator David Norris Independent

Yes.

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Denis O'Donovan An Cathaoirleach Fianna Fáil

The motion, as worded, is to have the debate today, so it is a matter for Senator Norris-----

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I would be happy to have the debate tomorrow without the Minister's presence.

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David P.B. Norris Senator David Norris Independent

I understand that, but what concerns me is whether the Government will vote against the motion.

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I cannot answer the Senator right now.

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David P.B. Norris Senator David Norris Independent

That is fine.

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Denis O'Donovan An Cathaoirleach Fianna Fáil

The Senator has the option to press the amendment or not. I do not think the Leader can say any more about it.

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I would be happy to have the Minister come before the House to discuss the issues Senator Davitt raised about newspapers. His colleague, Senator Leyden, last week very eloquently and very colourfully debated the matter of local radio stations.

Senator Coghlan raised the very important issue of our small stations. I almost closed my eyes as Senator Coghlan was speaking about Banteer, Millstreet, Rathmore, Mallow and parts of Kerry. It was like going to the Munster football final long ago, when we were young. Senator Paddy Burke raised the issue as well. I am not sure we will be travelling to Killarney much with the Cork footballers at present, but we live in hope. Senator Coghlan might be best advised to table a Commencement matter on the issue, but in essence I would be happy to have the Minister come to the House to discuss the matter.

Senator Horkan raised the skills shortage in education. We had a debate on education recently but we will have one again soon. I would be happy to discuss that element with the Senator in the House.

Senator Ó Ríordáin respectfully asked that the Minister for Justice and Equality come before the House. We have put the request in. It is important to recognise that the Minister has been in the House dealing with the Judicial Appointments Commission Bill. Contrary to what Senator Craughwell believes, it is very important legislation which is a central part of the programme for Government. It is the obfuscation and filibustering of some of the members of the Senator's group that is causing the Minister to be here inordinately to discuss the Bill rather than having it passed-----

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