I have given the Minister many recommendations and they have not listened to one.

The Senator has not said anything in this House.

They are not listening to the ordinary people. That is why we are where we are.

We are all ordinary people.

The Minister is not listening. I raise solutions at our meetings every week and he just does not listen.

I have never heard the Senator say anything in here.

I give them to the Minister and he does not listen.

The Leader is listening and he will go back to the Minister.

I join Senator Colm Burke in congratulating Clúid and Cork City Council on the acquisition of the apartments, which is a very positive move.

Senator Mullen raised an interesting and deeply personal issue relating to a family whose name I cannot pronounce, for which I apologise. It was in the news last December. I agree with the Senator that it seems very insensitive of the New Zealand Government to turn away people because of disability, but as the Senator knows, it has an A4.10 form which stipulates very strict protocols about entry into New Zealand. It has strong rules and regulations regarding immigration.

That country has very strong rules and regulations for immigration. One of the questions on that form deals with the issue of imposing significant costs on New Zealand's health system. I do not agree with them, by the way, in the same way that I completely disagree with the Senator's comments last week here about conversion therapy, for which he should apologise to the House.

Hear, hear.

No. I called for an evidence base for all legislation. It is unprofessional for the Leader.

No. It is not.

It reflects very badly on the Leader when I raise a serious personal issue about a vulnerable family that he should try to have a cheap shot and misrepresent what I said.

Please, Senator Mullen-----

If this is the standard, we are in trouble.

Please-----

We are in trouble if that is the case because the Senator is really------

The Leader should deal with my issue and not misrepresent what I said last week.

The Leader please, without interruption.

I am entitled to reply to the Order of Business as I see fit. I will not take lectures from the Senator on anything. His comments here last week were a disgrace and he should be ashamed of himself.

Please, Leader-----

You have to be ashamed of yourself. What is your problem with-----

Please respect the Chair.

Sorry, a Chathaoirligh.

The Leader should stop misrepresenting what I said last week. He should be ashamed of himself.

Last week's Order of Business should not be revisited.

Absolutely, and misrepresented what is more.

The Senator should reflect on his position on conversion therapy.

Please, now-----

The Leader should read what I said-----

I did.

----- instead of coming in here half-cocked.

Can we move on from here, please.

The Senator should reflect on his position on conversion therapy.

The Leader should read-----

He should reflect on that strongly.

The Leader knows exactly what I said about getting the space to do what was necessary.

I do not want last week's Order of Business-----

He should stop misrepresenting my comments. He is as bad as the worst elements of social media when he behaves like that.

Please, move on.

It is an astonishing performance by the Leader.

Last week's Order of Business should not-----

There is no end to which the Senator will not go.

It is an astonishing performance by the Leader. He is worse than the twitteratti.

Leader,-----

I would not respond to him in that request.

He is worse than the twitteratti with that kind of tabloid response-----

The Leader is anxious to conclude.

I am anxious to conclude.

----- to a reflective contribution last week.

The Senator's contribution on that was not reflective at all.

It certainly was and the Leader should read it before he comes in blasting and bluffing.

I did read the transcript.

It is a disgrace-----

It is a bit like the Senator.

----- for the Leader of the House.

I read the transcript.

Then I have to ask about his ability to read.

Please-----

The Senator can do all that.

The Leader has completely misrepresented what I said.

He can do all that.

Can we conclude today's Order of Business?

We can indeed. I will conclude by saying this.

May I have an answer to whether the Minister will-----

I gave the Senator the answer.

----- come in to discuss the Indian family.

I gave the Senator the answer, if he listened to what I said. I said I agree with him and do not agree with the New Zealand position.

Yes. Can I ask if the Minister is coming in?

The Senator should do the courtesy of letting me finish.

I would be delighted, if the Leader would not deviate.

The Senator is a bit like-----

He changed the subject.

The Senator is a bit like Lanigan's ball - he steps in and he steps out.

Would the Leader mind answering my question with-----

Please respect the Chair. I do not want an argument on the floor between the Leader and another Senator. They must speak through the Chair.

As Senator Mullen knows better than I do, the issue he referenced in the House today is a matter for the New Zealand immigration authority. It has very strict guidelines with which I do not agree. He might be best served by tabling a Commencement matter to get a more expeditious response from the Minister. I would be happy to engage with the Minister. If the Senator gives me the details, I would be happy to take them to the Minister.