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Fire risk in defective apartments

Summary

Humphreys then raised the fire danger in defective apartment blocks, warning that 70,000 residents were at risk and had received no proper assistance. The exchange turned heated, with repeated interruptions and accusations that the House was ignoring the danger.

The Labour Party is good at doing it on Dublin City Council and in this Chamber.

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The Leader criticises others for interrupting.

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David P.B. Norris Senator David Norris Independent

The Leader should cease making interruptions.

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What happened in Paris was an appalling tragedy. However, more than 70,000 residents throughout this country are living in defective apartment blocks which are possibly fire hazards. In many of them there are fire marshals walking up and down the corridors 24 hours a day. We have raised this issue in the House on many occasions. It is due to light-touch regulation and the 70,000 householders have been hung out to dry. We have ways to assist them through the Pyrite Resolution Board, but no assistance has been given to them in that regard. I have asked the Leader and the Minister on many occasions about the 70,000 householders. Some mechanism must be put in place to assist them, such as a soft loan to be given to them over 25 years at a preferential interest rate. We cannot leave 70,000 householders at risk of losing not just their homes but also possibly their lives. No Government can stand over this. The last Government created a template for dealing with this issue. It was a soft loan to help residents to rebuild, with grants paid in respect of other apartment blocks. The Minister and the Minister of State seem to close their ears-----

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Paul Coghlan An Leas-Chathaoirleach Fine Gael

The Senator is well over time.

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I am talking about the risk to life and limb for 70,000 householders. It is ignored on a daily basis, not just in this House but also in the other House. The people in question have not had a listening ear. No one is prepared to listen to them. I feel for what happened in Paris, but I will feel even worse if somebody loses his or her life in this country because the Minister will not listen. It is just not good enough to have fire marshals walking up and down corridors.

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Paul Coghlan An Leas-Chathaoirleach Fine Gael

The Senator has gone over time by one minute.

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The Leas-Chathaoirleach let many Fine Gaelers go two or three minutes over time----

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Paul Coghlan An Leas-Chathaoirleach Fine Gael

I did not.

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-----while they were talking a load of baloney. When I talk about the risk to life and limb, they are not prepared to listen.

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Paul Coghlan An Leas-Chathaoirleach Fine Gael

Excuse me, I did not.

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Senator Humphreys must withdraw the remark.

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I will not. The Leader heckled me all the way through my remarks. I am sick of the way he deals with the House. The way he is going to guillotine the debate on the Bill with Sinn Féin today is an absolute atrocity.

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The Leader is still shouting at me and has the protection of the Leas-Chathaoirleach. The guy has hassled and bullied Members all day.

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David P.B. Norris Senator David Norris Independent

Why does the Leas-Chathaoirleach not tell the Leader of the House that his behaviour is disgraceful?

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Paul Coghlan An Leas-Chathaoirleach Fine Gael

All Senators are interrupting. The Leader will have a chance to respond. That fact must be respected.

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He started it. Let us be very clear about who started it and who has been doing it all morning.

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Paul Coghlan An Leas-Chathaoirleach Fine Gael

All Senators are acting up. They must resume their seats and calm themselves.

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