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Legislative drafting support for Members

Summary

Senator Norris complained that Members lacked proper assistance when dealing with complex amendments and legislation, and sought dedicated drafting help. The Leader and Cathaoirleach traded brief remarks before Norris returned to his criticism of the broadband deal as taxpayer-funded and privately owned.

David P.B. Norris Senator David Norris Independent

I seek help on amendments to be made to legislation. We had a number of complicated Bills here recently referring to other legislation in many circumstances. These are very complex matters. I contacted the Bills Office and asked for help. In the past it used to give such help but I was told it can absolutely not do it now. The law office in the Oireachtas is supposed to help us with legislation but it cannot do it either, as it only gives legal advice on the preparation of legislation. Having discussed the matter, we have the suggestion of appointing somebody to give assistance to Members in both the Dáil and Seanad with amendments. It would be very useful.

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The Senator's Independent allowance can be used for it.

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Denis O'Donovan An Cathaoirleach Fianna Fáil

Senator Norris should proceed.

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David P.B. Norris Senator David Norris Independent

I do not know who is this person. He seems to have strayed in from the public area.

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Denis O'Donovan An Cathaoirleach Fianna Fáil

He will have the opportunity to respond formally.

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David P.B. Norris Senator David Norris Independent

He is probably from somewhere like Cork.

I agree completely with my colleague from Sinn Féin. The business with broadband has been appalling. The worst aspect of it is that the taxpayer will pay €3 billion to provide the infrastructure while at the end the taxpayer - having paid for the infrastructure - will not get it. It will go to the private company. This is sheer and unadulterated madness. What are we at?

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That is populism again.

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David P.B. Norris Senator David Norris Independent

What is populism?

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The Senator is being populist.

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David P.B. Norris Senator David Norris Independent

I am not. I am speaking common sense.

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David P.B. Norris Senator David Norris Independent

Does the Senator believe in sending everything to private people-----

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Denis O'Donovan An Cathaoirleach Fianna Fáil

Senator Norris should ignore the Leader for the time being. He will have the opportunity to reply.

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David P.B. Norris Senator David Norris Independent

I will certainly take great pleasure in ignoring the Leader. I heard a kind of gnat buzzing on my right-hand side but it has now gone through the window. It is utterly shocking that the taxpayer should pay €3 billion for infrastructure that it will then not even own. It will be owned by a private company. I rest my case as I am dumbfounded by this.

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