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‹ An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business

Defence Forces pay commission amendment

Summary

The Chair formally put Senator Craughwell’s amendment seeking a Taoiseach-led debate on the Defence Forces pay commission report. Craughwell insisted on pressing it but then wavered amid procedural exchanges; the amendment was ultimately defeated while he continued to protest the Government’s treatment of the Defence Forces.

Denis O'Donovan An Cathaoirleach Fianna Fáil

Yes, it won two awards, including the overall award, which is important.

There have been proposals. Senator Craughwell has proposed an amendment to the Order of Business: "To provide that a debate with the Taoiseach on the reasons the report of the Public Service Pay Commission has not been released will be taken today." Is the amendment being pressed?

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Of course I want to press the amendment but I have been placed in a most awkward position. I have just been told by the Deputy Leader, whose word I accept, that the Taoiseach has had a bereavement and cannot come to the House. Three minutes ago, however, I could see on a television screen the Taoiseach answering questions in the Dáil.

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Denis O'Donovan An Cathaoirleach Fianna Fáil

He may well be-----

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I am constantly being pushed off-----

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Denis O'Donovan An Cathaoirleach Fianna Fáil

I will not allow another speech.

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This is not bloody well good enough.

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Denis O'Donovan An Cathaoirleach Fianna Fáil

The Senator may either pull the trigger and push the amendment, or sit down.

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Should I pull the trigger at this stage and find I do not win because the two main parties in the House-----

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Denis O'Donovan An Cathaoirleach Fianna Fáil

The Senator can always raise the matter again next week.

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We will raise it the following week, the week after that and the week after that. The Government has put the Chief of Staff of the Defence Forces-----

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Denis O'Donovan An Cathaoirleach Fianna Fáil

I take it the Senator is not pushing the amendment.

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-----in the most horrible position. The Government has undermined the Chief of Staff's position in the country.

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This is just not on.

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Denis O'Donovan An Cathaoirleach Fianna Fáil

The question has been defeated.

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I will call a vote on it.

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Denis O'Donovan An Cathaoirleach Fianna Fáil

The Senator had his chance and he did not take it.

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This is not on. You are a most decent man, a Chathaoirligh, but this is not on.

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Denis O'Donovan An Cathaoirleach Fianna Fáil

I asked whether the Senator was pushing the amendment.

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I was explaining my position.

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Denis O'Donovan An Cathaoirleach Fianna Fáil

The Senator should not begin a spiel or we will have to suspend the House for an hour. I have been tolerant. Is the Senator pushing the amendment or not?

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Will the Cathaoirleach let me explain my position, please?

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Denis O'Donovan An Cathaoirleach Fianna Fáil

There will be no explanation. The question has been put.

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This is grossly unfair.

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Denis O'Donovan An Cathaoirleach Fianna Fáil

I will disallow the amendment and move on otherwise.

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It is grossly unfair.

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The Senator is only looking for headlines.

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No, it is damned unfair. The Government the Senator supports has put the Chief of Staff in the most horrible position.

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Denis O'Donovan An Cathaoirleach Fianna Fáil

Amendment No. 2, in the name of Senator-----

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The Government has undermined the Chief of Staff.

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What does the Senator hope to gain?

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I hope to get the Defence Forces' self-esteem back.

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The Senator is looking for headlines.

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