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Ambulance delay and democracy

Summary

Senator Dooley highlighted an over-hour ambulance delay after a collapse at the Cliffs of Moher, calling it unacceptable. Senator Boyhan then praised Catherine Murphy and Róisín Shortall and raised broader concerns about the shortage of parliamentary democracy in the House.

I want to raise a couple of issues. I recognise the appointment of Senator Seán Kyne as Deputy Leader. I wish him well and look forward to working with him in the Seanad. Last Saturday, an individual collapsed at the Cliffs of Moher. My understanding is that the individual passed away. It took over an hour for an ambulance to arrive at the scene. We often talk in this House about metrics for how services are delivered and the standard time for an ambulance to arrive, usually in populated, built-up areas, of eight, ten or 12 minutes. It has to be wholly unacceptable for it to take an hour for an ambulance to reach an individual who has collapsed. I am not suggesting that the patient's life could have been saved but, certainly, an effort could have been made if there was a speedier response. I would like a debate in this House on the National Ambulance Service and the level of service available in areas outside the populated areas. Much has been invested in recent years to upgrade various facilities and put in place more highly trained personnel, which is to be welcomed, but for a situation to develop where it could take up to an hour for an ambulance to arrive at the scene is wholly unacceptable. I would like a debate at the earliest possible opportunity.

On a secondary matter, I called last week or the week before for a debate on dealing with the consolidation of Ukrainian refugees into new facilities. We know some have gone back and that there are gaps in the system. There is a situation yet again in County Clare where, in Loop Head, 25 or 26 Ukrainians were in a facility in Kilbaha. It is a wonderful area of the county which is very scenic and peaceful. They were totally integrated into the local community. Some issues have arisen and they are now being transferred to four different locations, so people who have spent 18 months together are being broken up. An elderly mother is being separated by 70 miles from her 35-year-old son who has a visual impairment. It seems wrong. I understand the pressure that the staff in these agencies are under. We saw it with the intake as well and the fighting against it. Before we start moving people back into other facilities, there should be a much more thorough level of engagement. Let us have engagement with public representatives too. We are not here to beat up people or beat on the hard work that staff are doing, but we absolutely need engagement and communication.

I ask again for a debate on the ongoing management of the Ukrainian refugee population in this State.

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First, I join with others in wishing Deputies Catherine Murphy and Róisín Shortall well. They are two amazing politicians. Regardless of what the Cathaoirleach or I may think of all of their policies, I salute their tenacity, hard work and absolute commitment to parliamentary democracy.

We talk about democracy but we sometimes forget about the lack of parliamentary democracy in here, which is partly to do with the dynamic of the number of Government Members versus those in opposition. I acknowledge that because it is very important. I join with Senator Gavan and others who talked about that matter. Will the Leader formally write to the Taoiseach, particularly as this is a matter for the Leader's office? I wrote to him earlier in respect of a number of matters, some of which I will touch on in a moment. Ultimately, it is a matter for the House and the Leader to invite the Taoiseach to come here. I think he would be keen to come this side of the summer recess.

We have a great deal of engagement. There are a number of issues: one that comes to mind is the Tomás Heneghan Supreme Court challenge to which the Government responded with a proposal on legislation for universities, which is being discussed at the Joint Committee on Housing, Local Government and Heritage, part of the remit of which relates to the franchise and elections. That is an important issue, and we need to hear where the Government is going to take us in that regard. It has a response and a strategy, but we need to know something about it.

It is for another forum, but I also intend to raise with the Taoiseach – I did so today in correspondence – how we elect the Cathaoirleach of the House. I checked the processes with the Ceann Comhairle's office last week, and I am fully aware of them. We have a great democracy in the Lower Chamber for how we elect our Chair, but somehow we have concerns or resistance. We could have no better man than the Taoiseach in here in order that we might put a number of questions to him. I believe he is personally supportive of it. Somewhere along the line, there is mixed messaging. One of the problems with a political Whip system is that people seem to lose voice, or lose the courage to give voice to their beliefs.

I extend a warm invitation to the Taoiseach of this country to come to Seanad Éireann to discuss whatever he may wish to discuss. It would be an important engagement, and one he would welcome before the summer.

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