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‹ An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business

Carers income disregard and health debate

Summary

The Leader responded to condolences for David Andrews and then addressed the income disregard for carers, criticising the restrictions. He also said multiple health issues had been raised recently and that the House should have a wide-scope debate on health.

I thank the Senators who have spoken. I will start by acknowledging Senator O'Loughlin's well-thought-out contribution on the very sad passing of the former Minister, David Andrews. I pass on our condolences not only to our colleague here, Senator Chris Andrews, but also to Mr. Andrews's family - Annette, Barry, David, Mary and Sinead - on his sad passing. He left an incredible legacy over decades of service to this country. He has passed on that passion for public service to the next generation of his family, who are doing him proud as well. When I look at politics, certainly when I was young, he was one of those people who was looked up to and thought of as a statesman, who was above politics even. He was someone who was admired and respected by all sides of the House. As Senator O'Loughlin said, his role in the Good Friday Agreement still lasts 30 years later. On behalf of the House, we wish his family well. We are thinking of them at this sad time. Senator Andrews might pass on our condolences to the wider family.

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I thank the Leader.

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Senator O'Loughlin also spoke about the income disregard for carers, which she raised yesterday as well. It does seem ridiculous that approval is being restricted based on just how severe the situation is. That is not where we should be, certainly at a time when we have funding in place and there is money in the country to be able to support our most vulnerable people. A number of issues have been brought up over the past couple of days on the Order of Business in relation to health. We should have a wide-scope debate on health in this House and I am sure Senators will work with me on that. We might be able to do that very early after the recess.

Senator Mike Kennelly spoke about firefighters and the retirement age of 62. It seems quite unfair, if someone is fit and able and has been shown in tests to be fit and able, not to be allowed to continue working in a critical area in which we are trying to find people to work. It is mandatory for firefighters to retire at 62 and they still cannot receive a pension until they are 66. That should certainly be looked at. The fire service has obviously recognised it, considering the retirement age has been increased from 60 to 62. We have over 3,000 people working in the fire service who provide a daily service to people across the country at very tragic times and in difficult situations. They put their own lives at risk, so the least we can do is make sure their pay and conditions reflect the good work they do.

I will ask the Minister to come in and see if he can play a role in pausing compulsory retirement.

Senator Joe Conway spoke about data centres. This is always a contentious issue. There are positives to the economic side of it. The tax data centres pay to the Government is beneficial. There is an environmental side to it as well and we need balance. Any planning decisions are a matter for Waterford City and County Council and, beyond that, An Coimisiún Pleanála. I take on the Senator's concerns and it is important to raise it if there are people in Kilmeadan concerned about it. I live not far from the area. Sometimes we do not highlight the important role data centres play as well.

Senator Andrews raised something I always like talking about, which is sport. I was at a cricket match a couple of years ago in Malahide. The men's win against India was phenomenal and to see the women back it up with the T20 is incredible. We always talk about the main sports - GAA, soccer and rugby - and that is reflected in funding. Whether from sports capital grants or other large funding for sports projects, the big sports organisations get a large proportion of that money. We need to invest in small sports. Cricket is a prime example. Boxing is one we are very successful in. Rowing is another one we need to invest more into. There are loads of examples of sports we need to support more. Those sports organisations need to be more ambitious in asking for money from us. Often you find there is a limited amount a sports organisation can ask for and the GAA asks for that exact amount, the highest it can ask for. If you tell a rowing, boxing or gymnastics club it can apply for up to €100,000, it will ask for €5,000. That culture needs to change and small clubs need to be ambitious. All of us here will do the best we can.

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