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Dáil
‹ Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Primary School Teachers.

Graduate teachers and employment scheme

Summary

The Minister acknowledged that providing employment was one consideration in recruiting graduates, but said the main aim was to improve pupil-teacher ratios; he undertook to provide figures on recruits’ previous employment. After concerns about hardship and salary payments, he said scheme terms would be announced shortly and assured graduates he would honour the original arrangement.

asked the Minister for Education if, in relation to his scheme to introduce university graduates in primary schools, one of the main considerations was to relieve the unemployment position.

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The answer is yes.

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Did the Minister notice statements in the Press to the effect that many of those graduates had left other employment to take up positions as teachers?

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My information is that not many of those graduates had left employment to take up teaching.

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Is the Minister saying that the statements in the Press to the effect that many of them had left good employment to take up teaching is untrue? That statement appeared in newspapers on more than one occasion and there was no denial from the Minister's Department.

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It is not possible to deny every statement that appears in the newspapers.

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How many graduates left other employment to take up teaching and stated so in their application forms? How many of them are recorded as coming from full-time remunerated insured employment to take up those positions? Is that information available in the Minister's Department? Is the Minister aware that the stated purpose of the exercise of taking on such graduates was to provide employment for graduates who had no employment? Can the Minister give us that information?

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It is not true to say that the stated objective was to provide employment.

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It was one of them.

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That is correct; let us be accurate. The exact figure of people who had some position before they were recruited I do not have but I will get it and give it to the Deputy. The vast majority of the people recruited were those who had degrees, some had diplomas and some Ceard Teastas Gaeilge. They may not have had jobs and it was the intention to use them in the schools in a proper fashion to improve the pupil-teacher ratio.

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Is the Minister aware that in a number of cases severe personal hardship has been suffered by people who accepted places on these courses on the basis of the Minister's assurance in his circular?

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I can assure the Deputy that they will not suffer severe personal hardship.

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Edward Collins Mr. E. Collins Fine Gael

Is it the Minister's intention to pay them a salary as and from the date he recruited them?

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Joseph Brennan An Ceann Comhairle Fianna Fáil

We must move on to the next question.

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Why will the Minister not answer the question put by Deputy Collins?

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What was the question?

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Edward Collins Mr. E. Collins Fine Gael

Does the Minister intend to pay a salary to the recruited teachers as and from the time they were recruited?

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As I told the House, I am working on the scheme at present and I hope to announce the terms of the scheme before the weekend. I should like to repeat that there will not be severe financial hardship or distress which seems to be causing Deputy Horgan's heart to bleed.

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It is not causing my heart to bleed.

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Edward Collins Mr. E. Collins Fine Gael

That was a very cynical remark and it does not become the Minister.

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I am assuring the graduates that I am standing by my original bargain with them.

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Edward Collins Mr. E. Collins Fine Gael

Such personal remarks do not become the Minister.

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Joseph Brennan An Ceann Comhairle Fianna Fáil

I am again calling the next question. We are now having repetition.

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