Use of intervention food for Africa
Mac Giolla challenged the cost of storing food while people faced starvation and asked whether stocks could be sent to Africa. The Minister said stocks were sold, not given away, because sales helped finance the CAP, while Ireland and the EC provided substantial aid. McCartin argued that taxpayers could fund a purchase and donation of the food; the Minister agreed this was an alternative.
Quite so. It could be in the region of another £1 million or £2 million. Is the Minister satisfied that the Irish taxpayer should be paying £22 million to keep enormous amounts of food in storage at a time when the Irish public, and the public generally throughout the world, are so concerned about the starvation in African countries?
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One could never be happy when a large amount of butter, skim milk powder and beef is in cold storage or intervention. If we did not have the intervention facility, many Irish farmers would be a damn sight poorer and taxpayers would find themselves in a much worse position. It is very advantageous for us to have that intervention facility available.
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By all means let us produce as much as possible. There is nothing wrong with that. I am asking the Minister how this enormous quantity of food can be transferred to the people who need it. Were there any developments over the past three months because of the enormous shortage of food in Africa?
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Thankfully we live in a free economy. We sell those stocks. We do not give them away. If we did not sell them there would not be money to finance the Common Agricultural Policy.
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As I pointed out, Bord Bainne are selling a very substantial amount of the intervention stocks.
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I asked a simple question to which I have not got an answer. Over the past five or six months there has been tremendous concern about hunger in Africa and particularly in Ethiopia. This matter concerned the EC. I am sure the Minister was involved in these discussions. In the light of the discussions and since there is an enormous amount of food being stored, has any new plan emerged for distributing this food to the people who need it?
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I am not avoiding that question. The Government and I are as much concerned as is Deputy Mac Giolla about the problem of starvation in Africa.
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The EC have given more aid to Africa than have any of the other economic blocs in the world and within the EC, Ireland has given more aid than any other member. In other words, we have given more in terms of the whole world economy than has any other country in the world. The point is that, if the product is given away, it would not be possible to finance the Common Agricultural Policy. Therefore, we give as much as we can possibly give without undermining either our own economy or the CAP.
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Would the Minister agree that this is an interesting subject and that people who raise it usually propose that someone else ought to buy the food and send it away? If we wish to bring about a solution to the problem we are free to raise the money necessary by way of taxation in our own country.
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Would the Minister agree that if we so wish we can buy the food from storage cheaply and give it to the people of Africa but that first our people would have to be willing to allow the finance to be raised here by way of taxation.