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Social welfare Bill scrutiny

Summary

Peter Mathews urges adequate time to understand and scrutinise the Social Welfare and Pensions Bill, while also seeking urgent action on adoption cases. The Taoiseach distinguishes Second Stage from detailed Committee Stage consideration and repeats that the Whip will provide as much time as possible.

Deputy Troy spoke about the amending legislation needed for the adoption Bill. The deadline is 31 October and I ask the Taoiseach to ensure that the Minister for Children and Youth Affairs and whoever else is involved would do that speedily to achieve the result for those five families.

I understand the challenge facing the Government on the overall budget, and particularly the social welfare budget, apropos the earlier discussion about the time needed to discuss it. The time is not just needed to discuss it because Deputies also need the time to explore and understand properly the underlying economic basis and assumptions for that social welfare Bill. They need to be discussed and it can be done in a generous amount of time, as the Taoiseach said. As Deputy Creighton pointed out, it is nine hours 35 minutes for €20.24 billion worth of expenditure and savings, and the underlying economic assumptions need to be explored and examined.

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Enda Kenny The Taoiseach Fine Gael

Long before the Deputy came in here, the late Deputy Vivion de Valera used to raise the question of the appropriations Bill going through in ten seconds every year, and the corresponding amount of money which was voted through without any debate at all. Second Stage is for general observations and issues about a Bill, whereas Committee Stage is for exploration and analysis. I have already said that the Whip will be as generous as possible in moving this along.

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We do not want the cart before the horse.

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