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- Order of Business 6 speeches
The Tánaiste proposes the day’s business and extended sitting arrangements; the House agrees to most proposals, while Deputy Ó Fearghaíl objects to the handling of the Finance Bill and Adams seeks flexibility on its guillotine.
Eamon Gilmore, Seán Barrett, Seán Ó Fearghaíl, Gerry Adams
- Freedom of Information Bill scope 8 speeches
Deputy Ó Fearghaíl criticises the proposed Freedom of Information regime for excluding bodies such as An Garda Síochána, NAMA and Irish Water. The Tánaiste defends the Government’s restoration of the Act and the proposed charging arrangements.
Seán Ó Fearghaíl, Eamon Gilmore, Emmet Stagg
- Central Bank legislation and Newbridge Credit Union 2 speeches
Deputy Adams asks whether new banking legislation is needed after a bank was appointed to run Newbridge Credit Union; the Tánaiste says existing legislation enabled the action and consolidation legislation is due next year.
Gerry Adams, Eamon Gilmore
- EirGrid Bill publication 42 speeches
Deputy McGrath repeatedly asks when the promised EirGrid Bill will be published and raises concerns about EirGrid’s appointment of a former An Bord Pleanála chairman, prompting strong procedural objections from the Chair. The Tánaiste says preparatory work is under way and the Bill will be published next year.
Mattie McGrath, Seán Barrett, Paul Kehoe, Eamon Gilmore, Michael Healy-Rae
- Protection for cattle marts and farmers 17 speeches
Deputy Healy-Rae raises the receivership of a cattle-exporting company and seeks protection for local marts and farmers. The Chair rules the matter outside the Order of Business, while the Tánaiste refers him to parliamentary questions.
Michael Healy-Rae, Seán Barrett, Eamon Gilmore
- Lissadell rights of way judgment 12 speeches
Deputy Broughan criticises the Supreme Court’s Lissadell rights-of-way judgment and asks whether the Government will revisit access legislation, but the Chair rules the issue outside the permitted Order of Business questions.
Thomas P. Broughan, Seán Barrett
- Dublin housing shortage 13 speeches
Deputy Broughan highlights severe housing waiting lists in Dublin and seeks urgent support for local authorities. The Tánaiste says the housing (miscellaneous provisions) Bill is due to be published next year.
Thomas P. Broughan, Seán Barrett, Eamon Gilmore
- Rent supplement and rising rents 27 speeches
Deputy Ellis reports that tenants receiving rent supplement are facing rent increases and eviction notices, and calls for an urgent debate and action. The Tánaiste gives only the publication timetable and broad purpose of the forthcoming housing Bill.
Dessie Ellis, Seán Barrett, Eamon Gilmore
- Lissadell access legislation 7 speeches
Deputy Dowds asks the Government to consider his Private Members’ Bill on rights of way after the Lissadell judgment. The Tánaiste says the Government is considering both the issue and the Bill.
Robert Dowds, Seán Barrett, Eamon Gilmore
- Vehicle immobilisation Bill 2 speeches
Deputy Fitzpatrick asks when legislation regulating vehicle clamping and towing will be published; the Tánaiste says it is expected in the middle of next year.
Peter Fitzpatrick, Eamon Gilmore
- Spent Convictions Bill 2 speeches
Deputy Maloney asks about the Spent Convictions Bill and is told that it is awaiting Report Stage.
Eamonn Maloney, Eamon Gilmore
- European youth guarantee legislation 4 speeches
Deputy Calleary asks whether legislation will underpin the European youth guarantee; the Tánaiste says existing legislation is sufficient, though legislation will be prepared if later required.
Dara Calleary, Eamon Gilmore, Seán Barrett
- Central Bank Bill financial review 22 speeches
Deputy Mathews seeks a framework within the Central Bank consolidation legislation to review financial-sector risks and credit-union concerns regularly. The Chair rules that the Bill’s contents cannot be debated on the Order of Business; the Tánaiste says it will consolidate existing legislation and is due next year.
Peter Mathews, Seán Barrett, Eamon Gilmore
- Monuments Bill publication 7 speeches
Deputy Bannon asks when the monuments legislation will be introduced, citing concern about the condition of national monuments. The Tánaiste says the Bill will consolidate and update heritage protections and is due late next year.
James Bannon, Seán Barrett, Eamon Gilmore
- NTMA amendment Bill 2 speeches
Deputy Durkan asks when the National Treasury Management Agency (Amendment) Bill will be before the House; the Tánaiste expects it during the current session.
Bernard Durkan, Eamon Gilmore
- TLT debts to farmers and marts 7 speeches
Deputy Naughten raises substantial debts reportedly owed by TLT in Mullingar to farmers and marts and asks about the credit guarantee amendment legislation. The Tánaiste has no publication date but will seek a response from the responsible Minister.
Denis Naughten, Eamon Gilmore, Seán Barrett
It is proposed to take No. 8, motion re ministerial rota for parliamentary questions; No. 20, Finance (No. 2) Bill 2013 - Second Stage (resumed); and No. 21, Local Government Bill 2013 - Second Stage (resumed).
It is proposed, notwithstanding anything in Standing Orders, that the Dáil shall sit later than 9 p.m. and shall adjourn on the adjournment of Private Members' business, which shall be No. 128 - access to credit and shall adjourn after 90 minutes; No. 8 shall be decided without debate; the resumed Second Stage of No. 20 shall, if not previously concluded, be brought to a conclusion at 7.30 p.m., and a Minister or Minister of State shall be called upon not later than 7.15 p.m. to make a speech in reply; and the following business shall be taken tomorrow after Oral Questions: Health (Alteration of Criteria for Eligibility) (No. 2) Bill 2013 - Order for Second Stage and Second Stage.
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There are four proposals to be put to the House. Is the proposal that the Dáil shall sit later than 9 p.m. agreed to? Agreed. Is the proposal for dealing with No. 8 agreed to? Agreed. Is the proposal for dealing with No. 20 agreed to?
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We will not push this to a vote but will the Tánaiste relax the guillotine? There may be Teachtaí Dála who want to speak on this Bill. If they do not turn up, then that is fair enough. It is such an important issue that everybody should be given the opportunity speak if he or she wishes.
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Ten hours have been given to the debate on this already. My understanding is that the time allocated should be sufficient to complete it. The House knows we have to complete this legislation as it is part of the exit from the bailout body of legislation which needs to be completed.
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Is the proposal for dealing with the Health (Alteration of Criteria for Eligibility) (No. 2) Bill 2013 tomorrow agreed to? Agreed.
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In the programme for Government, the Government promised to restore the Freedom of Information Act.
It said it would extend the remit of freedom of information "to other public bodies including the administrative side of the Garda Síochána [and] all bodies significantly funded from the public purse". The Bill that is currently being considered on Committee Stage does not extend the remit of the freedom of information regime to include the Garda, nor does it include the National Treasury Management Agency, the National Asset Management Agency or the newly formed Irish Water company. Instead, it increases the fees so that it will cost more to get information from the limited areas covered by freedom of information. I am reminded of what the Tánaiste's colleague, the Minister, Deputy Rabbitte, said about freedom of information when he was in opposition. He stated:
Freedom of information is not a service, it is a civil and political right. It is a democratic instrument through which citizens exercise their right to hold the Government to account. Charging an up-front fee for freedom of information requests is like charging an up-front fee to vote in a general election.
The Government seems to be ignoring what the Minister, Deputy Rabbitte, said. It is breaking yet another promise it made to the people. I ask the Tánaiste to resile from that position, to rectify the situation by including in this system the agencies of State that are benefitting from the public purse and to ensure prohibitive costs are not applied.
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I remind Deputy Ó Fearghaíl that it was the parties on this side of the House that first introduced the freedom of information legislation in 1997.
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We are restoring the Freedom of Information Act to which the Deputy's party did so much damage. Approximately 70% of freedom of information requests are made by members of the public who are seeking information on their own files, etc. No charge at all applies to such requests. The amendment mentioned by the Deputy relates to cases in which multiple applications are made in the same letter. It costs approximately €600, on average, to respond to a freedom of information request. That is taxpayers' money. I do not think it is unreasonable for the Minister, Deputy Howlin, to propose an amendment to deal with an anomaly or loophole that facilitates those who try to make several unrelated freedom of information requests in the same letter or application. As we consider the Freedom of Information Acts, we must strike a balance between the right to information and the considerable cost to the taxpayer of responding to freedom of information requests. Essentially, we are restoring the position that existed before the Deputy's party pulled apart the freedom of information system.
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The Government is doing the direct opposite of what the Minister, Deputy Rabbitte, said it would do.
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In the context of the proposed Central Bank (consolidation) Bill, does the Tánaiste believe new banking legislation is needed in light of the appointment of a bank to run Newbridge credit union? If such a change is not needed, will the Tánaiste give an assurance that the State will work with the credit union movement if other problems arise to find a credit union-based solution?
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The Central Bank (consolidation) Bill, which will consolidate the body of legislation relating to the Central Bank into a single statute - this is desirable given the amount of banking legislation we have had in recent years - is to be published next year. Action has been taken in relation to Newbridge credit union under the existing legislation.
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In the context of the EirGrid Bill, I would like to ask about the situation-----
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I am referring to the promised legislation with regard to EirGrid.
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I was concerned to read today that a former chairman of An Bord Pleanála, who retired in 2011, has been appointed as the chief executive of EirGrid.
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There is a Bill promised. I am after reading the book of proposed legislation. The Chief Whip should go back and read it.
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I am saying I am very concerned.
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I am asking when the EirGrid Bill will be published.
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They need to be reined in because a former chairman of An Bord Pleanála has been appointed as the boss of EirGrid.
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This is farcical, a Cheann Comhairle.
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I am insinuating that a former chairman of An Bord Pleanála-----
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The public out there will have to ask-----
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People have to go to An Bord Pleanála to save themselves.
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Now its former chairman has been-----
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If the Chief Whip checks, he will find that this legislation is on the Order Paper.
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Hold on a second please. The Deputy will not make insinuations like that as long as I am in the Chair. People's reputations are going to be protected in this House.
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The initial preparatory work on the EirGrid Bill, which will establish EirGrid in primary legislation, is under way. The Bill will be published next year.
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I am being attacked before I start.
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Thank you very much, a Cheann Comhairle.
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In the context of the Central Bank (consolidation) Bill, the Tánaiste will be aware of the serious situation with regard to a company that was exporting cattle but has now gone into receivership.
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It was buying cattle at marts locally.
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I am just explaining so that the Tánaiste will understand what I am speaking about.
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What can be done to protect marts-----
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-----and to protect farmers who have-----
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I gave an answer with regard to the Central Bank (consolidation) Bill in response to Deputy Adams. It is to be published next year.
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Does the Tánaiste have a comment to make on the protection of marts and farmers?
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I think the other Minister knows what I am talking about.
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I would like to raise two matters of legislation or possible legislation. Many citizens regard the Supreme Court decision on the Lissadell House rights of way issue as deplorable. It seems to set a very high standard in relation to-----
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The Tánaiste used to have an interest in the maintenance-----
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I want to ask him, in response-----
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-----to that judgment, whether the Government might examine and revisit the issue of access.
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I am thinking, obviously, of rights of way in my own constituency in places like Howth.
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Second, I would like to ask about the housing Bill. The Tánaiste reported to the House the other day that approximately 4,500 houses will be developed next year. There are 5,000 people on the waiting list in my own constituency, Dublin Bay North. That is just one of 41 constituencies. As the Tánaiste knows, we have a dire situation in the Dublin City Council area, in particular.
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People have been on the housing list since 1994 or 1998. I accept that is well before the Tánaiste's time.
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Can urgent support be given to the four Dublin local authorities, in particular-----
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-----to help them deal with the current housing situation?
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Other Deputies are aware of this too.
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I ask Deputies to read the Standing Orders and to understand what is allowable on the Order of Business and what is not. I do not want to be cutting people off every day. It is quite clear that in the case of promised legislation, Deputies can ask when it will be published.
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What about my first question?
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All morning, I have been dealing with people and families-----
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-----who are on rent supplement-----
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-----and have been served with notices-----
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-----by landlords looking to increase rents. There has been a 7.8% increase in private rents.
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I am talking about the housing Bill. I am coming to it.
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The Minister for Social Protection-----
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Sorry, Deputy, would you resume your seat? An answer has been given on the housing Bill.
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-----plans to transfer responsibility for rent supplement to the local authorities.
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That is coming under the housing Bill. We need an urgent debate on this. Families are being served notice left, right and centre.
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I have been dealing with them all morning. The situation is getting worse.
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Landlords are throwing people out on the streets for the sake of €50 or €100.
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I think we urgently need a debate on this matter in this House.
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I did not get an answer to my question about what the Government is going to do about it.
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The housing (miscellaneous provisions) Bill, which will strengthen the regulatory framework for social housing and provide for the statutory underpinning of the new scheme of housing assistance payments and various other matters, will be published next year.
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In light of yesterday's Lissadell judgment, will the Government consider-----
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Will the Government consider looking at the Bill I brought to the floor of the House before the summer recess? There are serious questions on access.
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It is. Deputy Dowds has taken a very strong interest in this issue for quite some time and well before the judgment in the Lissadell case, on which I commend him. The Government is considering the issue and is considering the Deputy's Bill. I understand it is being dealt with by the committee.
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When can we expect the publication of the regulation of vehicle immobilisation Bill, to regulate vehicle clamping and tow away?
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The heads of the regulation of vehicle immobilisation Bill, to regulate vehicle clamping and tow away have been approved by the Government and it is expected to be published in the middle of next year.
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What is the status of the Spent Convictions Bill?
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Does the Government plan to introduce an amendment to the Social Welfare and Pensions Bill to give legislative underpinning to the European youth guarantee?
The point Deputy Mattie McGrath raised about the EirGrid Bill is important and should be considered not in terms of the individual but of the conflict of two roles.
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No legislation is required to deal with the European youth guarantee and it can be dealt with under existing legislation. If legislation arises, it will be prepared and put before the House.
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Will the Government consider creating a framework of appraisal or review of the financial sector within the Central Bank (consolidation) Bill to evaluate and assess on a quarterly basis the percentage in value and the percentage in various maturity dates-----
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There is a danger here that the credit union-----
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The content of the Bill can be discussed when it comes to the House. We are not talking about what should or should not be in the Bill.
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There must be a purpose to a Bill.
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The purpose of the Bill is to consolidate the financial sector-----
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-----under the Central Bank. Unless there is an objective in creating this legislation, which is to-----
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I am talking about just a broad overview framework.
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That is fine, but the Deputy cannot do it on the Order of Business. That is what I am trying to explain to the Deputy. We do not do that on the Order of Business. We have the Topical Issue debate, parliamentary questions and committee work.
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-----whether it will address all these concerns.
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The Central Bank (consolidation) Bill is consolidating the legislation that is enacted. It is to pull it all together into a single piece-----
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The work on the consolidation exercise is proceeding and it will be published next year.
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The Deputy has ample time to raise the matter in the Topical Issue debate or parliamentary questions in order that it can be considered before the Bill is published. Alternatively, he can raise it at the committee, but not on the Order of Business.
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Our monuments represent the glue that holds communities together and give places a sense of identity. When will we have the monuments Bill?
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Visitors to our country during the year of The Gathering were disappointed at the state of our monuments.
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The monuments Bill, which is to consolidate, update and improve the legislative code governing the protection and regulation of the national archaeological heritage, is due for publication late next year.
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When is the National Treasury Management Agency (amendment) Bill likely to be before the House?
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There is precedence for a Minister to engage with a receiver. As we know, TLT in Mullingar has many outstanding debts to farmers and marts. When will we see the credit guarantee (amendment) Bill? I understand enough money is due to the company to meet those liabilities.
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Can the Tánaiste have a word with the Minister for Agriculture, Food and Marine?
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The TLT issue is a huge issue coming up to Christmas for many people who are owed money.