Order of Business
- Order of Business 19 speeches
The House debates whether to take the Supplementary Estimates without debate. Opposition deputies seek discussion of health overruns and the absent service plan, while the Ceann Comhairle and Tánaiste maintain that committee consideration makes floor debate unnecessary.
Eamon Gilmore, Seán Barrett, Michael McGrath, Mary Lou McDonald, Barry Cowen
- Free GP care and NTMA legislation 2 speeches
Michael McGrath asks when legislation for free GP care for under-sixes and the National Treasury Management Agency investment-fund Bill will be introduced. The Tánaiste expects both measures shortly, with the NTMA Bill due before the new year.
Michael McGrath, Eamon Gilmore
- HSE plan and charities regulation 4 speeches
Mary Lou McDonald seeks dates for publication of the HSE service plan and implementation of the Charities Act. The Tánaiste says the HSE plan will be decided and laid before the House by 16 December, while charities regulation remains subject to resource considerations.
Mary Lou McDonald, Eamon Gilmore
- Water Services Bill timetable 12 speeches
Opposition deputies seek assurances that the Water Services (No. 2) Bill will not be guillotined and suggest sitting on Friday to allow adequate scrutiny. The Tánaiste says the Bill is expected from the Seanad early next week and that the Whips will decide its handling.
Brian Stanley, Seán Barrett, Thomas P. Broughan, Eamon Gilmore, Barry Cowen
- Debate on policing plan 4 speeches
Catherine Murphy highlights burglaries and asks when the policing plan will receive proper debate. The Tánaiste says arrangements can be made through the Whips or the justice committee and notes that Garda recruitment has resumed.
Catherine Murphy, Eamon Gilmore
- Small schools value-for-money review 8 speeches
Charlie McConalogue asks whether the value-for-money review of small schools has reached Cabinet and why it remains unpublished. The Tánaiste directs the matter to the Education Minister, Question Time and the relevant committee.
Charlie McConalogue, Seán Barrett, Eamon Gilmore, Brendan Howlin
- Wind turbine and monuments legislation 4 speeches
Sean Fleming asks about legislation implementing wind-turbine planning guidelines and protections for national monuments. The Tánaiste says the monuments Bill is due next year and that wind-turbine guidelines are undergoing public consultation.
Seán Barrett, Seán Fleming, Eamon Gilmore
- Scrap metal legislation 20 speeches
Mattie McGrath raises concerns about access to company filings and repeatedly seeks Government legislation regulating scrap and precious-metal dealers, citing theft affecting aviation. The Chair says the companies Bill has passed and that the private member’s scrap-metal proposal cannot be dealt with on the Order of Business; exchanges continue with several humorous interjections.
Mattie McGrath, Seán Barrett, Eamon Gilmore, Brendan Howlin, Patrick O'Donovan
- Shannon LNG project debate 10 speeches
Brendan Griffin seeks support for the Shannon liquefied natural gas project, citing 700 jobs and €1 billion in investment, and complains that it was excluded from Topical Issues. The Chair rules the intervention out of order, while the Tánaiste says the gas-market Bill facilitating such arrangements is due next year.
Brendan Griffin, Seán Barrett, Eamon Gilmore
- Mental Health Act amendment 2 speeches
Dan Neville asks when the promised amendment to the Mental Health Act 2001 will be introduced. The Tánaiste says the Minister of State is reviewing the area and will bring proposals to Government.
Dan Neville, Eamon Gilmore
- NESDO Bill and Smithwick debate 2 speeches
Bernard Durkan asks about the National Economic and Social Development Office Bill and the promised Smithwick tribunal debate. The Tánaiste expects the Bill and the debate to proceed next year.
Bernard Durkan, Eamon Gilmore
- Housing legislation and funding 9 speeches
Barry Cowen presses for legislation addressing the housing crisis and criticises repeated promises of action next year. The Tánaiste says housing Bill heads are imminent, publication is planned for next year, and a €100 million housing programme will operate meanwhile.
Barry Cowen, Eamon Gilmore, Brendan Howlin
- Legal Services Regulation Bill 2 speeches
Eamonn Maloney asks about the timetable for the Legal Services Regulation Bill. The Tánaiste says it remains at Committee Stage and that the Justice Minister will circulate amendments shortly.
Eamonn Maloney, Eamon Gilmore
The Order of Business is No. 10a, Supplementary Estimates for Public Services [Vote 3] - back from committee; No. 10, the Public Service Management (Recruitment and Appointments) (Amendment) Bill 2013 [Seanad] – motion to instruct committee (resumed); and No. 21, Public Service Management (Recruitment and Appointments) (Amendment) Bill 2013 [Seanad] - Report and Final Stages (resumed).
It is proposed, notwithstanding anything in Standing Orders, that No. 10a shall be decided without debate and any division demanded thereon shall be taken forthwith.
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There is one proposal to be put to the House. Is the proposal for dealing with No. 10a, Supplementary Estimates for Public Services, without debate agreed to?
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It is not agreed. I acknowledge that this issue was debated this morning at the health committee but it would have been preferable if we had the service plan for 2014 before us when discussing the Supplementary Estimates for 2013. I raise one issue with the Tánaiste. The Estimate is for €219 million. I understand the Tánaiste is saying there are other savings which will net off about €20 million.
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If we can clarify one issue it might make it a bit more straightforward. The Estimate is €219 million as opposed to €199 million. Can the Tánaiste clarify that matter please?
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No, he cannot. We cannot have a debate on the issue here. This is a technical issue, whether we do it without debate or not.
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The difficulty with all of this is more than just technical, a Cheann Comhairle-----
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-----in terms of how we proceed.
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Can I suggest that a debate is badly needed because-----
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-----on the one hand we are bringing forward a Supplementary Estimate, which is a recognition that the health budget has overrun or fallen short, and on the other we have not had sight of the plan that proposes €666 million of cuts? I ask the Tánaiste to square that circle if he can.
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Yes. This issue was dealt with at the health committee this morning. I believe the discussion lasted over an hour and a half.
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In the absence of the service plan.
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-----as is normally the case when issues like this come back from committee, is that they are taken without debate on the floor of the House.
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I wish to raise two issues with the Tánaiste, first, in the area of health and the budgetary promise to introduce free GP care for all children under the age of six. Can the Tánaiste give a specific timeline as to when we will see that legislation, and when does the Government intend to make that facility available to families?
Second, when we will have the National Treasury Management Agency (No. 1) Bill, which relates to the strategic investment fund and the National Pensions Reserve Fund and putting the investment fund on a statutory basis to get at least some of the more than €6 billion awaiting deployment for viable commercial projects up and running as quickly as possible?
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The legislation in respect of the introduction of free GP care for children under the age of six is being prepared by the Minister of State, Deputy White, and by the Minister, Deputy Reilly. We expect to have that legislation before Government in the very near future.
In respect of the National Treasury Management Agency (No. 1) Bill, the intention is to publish that this session. We expect to see it published before the House returns in the new year.
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On the issue of the Health Service Executive service plan, can the Tánaiste give us more definitive information on that? I know it was raised yesterday but when might we see this service plan that has been delayed?
In respect of the Charities Act on the Statue Book since 2009, when will we see the oversight and enhanced accountability mechanisms? The Tánaiste indicated earlier that it will be early in the new year. If the Tánaiste can be more precise than that, I would appreciate it.
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First, the HSE service plan is not delayed. There is a process for considering the HSE service plan, that is, it is submitted to the Minister for Health. That has been done. There is a period of 21 days within which the Minister for Health considers the plan. That 21 days runs to Monday next, 16 December, and the Minister for Health will have made his decision on the service plan by then.
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Do we see it then? Is it published?
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It is laid before the House. There is a formal process for doing it.
Second, the Deputy asked about the Charities Bill and the establishment of the charities regulation authority.
The full implementation of the Charities Act, including the establishment of the authority and the register of charities, had resource implications and had to be examined in the context of the urgent need to reduce Government expenditure. The Minister did not bring the legislation into force to consider how best to achieve the objectives of the Act in that context but it is Government policy to strengthen the regulation of the charitable sector in an effective and proportionate way. The Minister is looking at the commencement of the various sections of the Act and my understanding is that he will do that next year.
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The Water Services (No. 2) Bill is going through the Seanad at the moment. The Government gave a commitment that the legislation would be circulated to the relevant committees but this Bill has not been circulated to the Joint Committee on Environment, Culture and the Gaeltacht. Will it be guillotined when it comes before the House next week? There is a deadline on this. The transfer of assets will happen on 1 January next.
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Will the Tánaiste give a commitment that it will not be guillotined and that, if necessary, we will sit next Friday to complete the debate on the Bill and to give the Opposition time to go through it? It is major legislation.
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I support Deputy Stanley. I understand from the Whips that all Stages of the Bill will go through the House on Wednesday and that it will be guillotined. The pyrite legislation will be guillotined on Thursday. We talked earlier about the appalling Fianna Fáil record, and rightly so.
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When the Tánaiste sat beside me on this side of the House, he used to lambaste Fianna Fáil for guillotining major Bills like the Water Services (No. 2) Bill and the pyrite legislation.
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I understand both Bills are being guillotined.
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Will the Tánaiste answer the question, if he can? I do not know quite what the question is.
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My understanding is that the Water Services (No. 2) Bill is in the Seanad. It is expected it will be completed in the Seanad early next week and that it will come into this House. The issue of the taking of the Bill in the House is something to be considered by the Whips.
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I have heard the submission which Deputies Broughan and Stanley have made about sitting on Friday and the Whips will consider that.
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The Tánaiste said the policing plan was laid before the House about two weeks ago. Approximately 80% of it is the same as last year. The number one goal is securing the nation but I can tell the Tánaiste that people in my constituency might as well leave their keys in their doors given the number of burglaries. We need to talk about where resources are deployed. When will we get an opportunity to have a proper debate on this policing plan?
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-----and at the Joint Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality. I am sure the Deputy and the House will welcome that this Government, after a long number of years, has recommenced the recruitment of gardaí.
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Has the value for money review of small schools gone before, and been discussed by, the Cabinet? Why has it not yet been published? I understand the Minister for Education and Skills has the review for more than nine months. This is important in light of the fact that since the Government took office, it has increased the pupil-teacher ratio by four points for schools with 85 students or fewer. There is concern about what is in this value for money review, and rightly so. Has it gone to the Cabinet and why does the Government continue to sit on it, so to speak?
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It would be more appropriate to raise this issue with the Minister for Education and Skills. There is no legislation on this issue.
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The review should be laid before the House.
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Discuss it at the Joint Committee on Education and Social Protection.
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There are ample ways in which this can be discussed, including at Question Time with the Minister for Education and Skills and at the Joint Committee on Education and Social Protection. That is the appropriate way to deal with it.
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Could we get back to dealing with matters which can be raised on the Order of Business? I do not like telling people to stay quiet all the time but they should stick to the rules and then we can get on with it. I call Deputy Fleming and hope he is within the rules.
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In view of the call by many members of both Government parties to give legislative effect to the planning rules for wind turbines and the document issued by the Minister, is there a timescale for legislation to give effect to those guidelines for wind turbines? There has been much comment about proposals by the Department of Arts, Heritage and the Gaeltacht in regard to renting national monuments to private interests. A monuments Bill is scheduled to deal with the protection and regulation of our national archaeological heritage. Will this legislation include protocols to deal with renting these premises to the private sector?
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The monuments Bill is due next year. In regard to wind turbines, the Minister of State with responsibility for housing and planning has draft planning guidelines on that matter and is inviting submissions on them. She is very willing to consider the submissions made to her on the matter. She wants a very open and full public consultation on this issue because she is very aware of the concerns many communities have about this issue.
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I refer to a provision in the Companies (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2013 to allow for simplification of the filing system and the removal of a true copy. Many businesses are not computer literate, so will the Government ensure that is recognised? Not everybody has e-mail.
My next question relates to the Department of Communications, Energy and Natural Resources. I introduced a Scrap and Precious Metal Dealers Bill more than two years ago and the Minister promised his own Bill. Damage is being done daily to aviation-----
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The Minister for Communications, Energy and Natural Resources promised legislation. Aeroplanes will fall out of the sky with the amount of theft of metal taking place.
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I tabled a question. It is like the gardaí in Templemore. When will we see the Bill?
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We have four minutes left and other Deputies have questions which I hope are in order and which they are entitled to ask.
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The Companies (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2013 was passed earlier today. I recommend that Deputy McGrath gets up a bit earlier in the morning and attend to business.
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Deputy McGrath has done a bit of jumping himself.
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A small bit. I am in the ha'penny place compared to him.
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Deputy Donnelly will be waiting for Deputy McGrath.
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I do not see any legislation that will prevent aeroplanes from falling out of the sky.
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The Minister promised to introduce his own Bill to deal with scrap metal.
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I know there will be a great deal of scrap after the next general election.
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He should keep looking up at the sky to make sure it does not fall on him.
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I would like to ask the Tánaiste, in the context of the common arrangements for gas Bill, whether he will give his personal attention to the Shannon liquified natural gas project.
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In the context of the Bill I have mentioned, could I express my disappointment about the failure to select this matter for discussion during Topical Issues this afternoon even though it has been raised by five Deputies?
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Some 700 jobs and a €1 billion investment are in jeopardy in County Kerry. I appeal to the Ceann Comhairle to select this matter on Tuesday.
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No. You are not doing your case any good by being so smart and standing up on the Order of Business. It has nothing to do with the Order of Business.
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This is an issue of urgent importance for the county and the region.
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Perhaps you could have contacted my office and been told the reason, instead of trying to make a play here in the Chamber.
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I did contact your office but I was not given a reason.
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The common arrangements for gas Bill, which will amend the Electricity Regulation (Act) 1999 and allow for arrangements to be put in place to facilitate the development of an all-island gas market, is due for publication next year.
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When will the promised amendment to the Mental Health Act 2001 be introduced?
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I understand the Minister of State, Deputy Kathleen Lynch, is carrying out a review of this whole area. She will come back to the Government with her proposals when they are ready.
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When is the National Economic and Social Development Office Bill, which will place the National Economic and Social Council on a statutory basis, likely to come before the House? I seem to recall that a debate on the Smithwick report was promised in the House in the past couple of weeks. Has any time been allocated for such a debate? Is it envisaged that it will take place before Christmas?
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The National Economic and Social Development Office (amendment) Bill is due to be published next year. It is intended that a debate on the report of the Smithwick tribunal, which has been submitted to the House, will take place in the new year.
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Can the Tánaiste enlighten the Dáil on when we can expect the housing Bill to be introduced to address the housing crisis that exists in Dublin and throughout the country? We have been waiting for three years for this Government to introduce legislation to deal with the lack of available funding for schemes and programmes.
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The heads of the housing (miscellaneous provisions) Bill are expected shortly. The Bill is due to be published next year. As the Deputy is aware-----
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We are in mid-December of this year.
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What part of next year are we talking about?
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The heads of the Bill are expected shortly, as I have said. It will be published after it has been drafted. The intention is to publish it next year. We are not waiting for legislation. In the meantime, the Minister of State with responsibility for housing has announced a €100 million housing programme for next year.
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It will build more than the Deputy's party built.
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We used to have that done by January.
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What is the timeframe in the coming year for the Legal Services Regulation Bill 2011?