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‹ Order of Business (Resumed)

CervicalCheck lab data for Scally inquiry

Summary

Bríd Smith and Róisín Shortall repeatedly demanded the list of laboratories linked to the misdiagnosed CervicalCheck tests and pressed for the basic data Dr. Scally needed. The Health Minister said he had used section 40 powers, believed the inquiry now had what it required, and insisted he had answered the question, which the Deputies disputed.

As the Taoiseach and Minister have just heard, the Scally inquiry has been seriously frustrated and delayed, possibly well into the next term. There is one simple question I have repeatedly asked and which I will ask for the fifth time. Can we have a list of the laboratories from which the 209 - now 221 - misdiagnosed tests came? I have repeatedly asked this of the HSE, the Taoiseach, the Minister for Health and the Minister for Finance, Deputy Paschal Donohoe, when he was sitting in for the Taoiseach, and I am asking it again.

I am informed by the Medical Laboratory Scientists Association that it is a simple question to which there is a simple answer. If the answer is not being provided to an elected Deputy, I suspect that is because it will be shown that all of the misdiagnosed tests came from the outsourcing of this service to the USA. If that is not the case, I would have had the answer sooner. May I have an answer to that question before the summer recess? I will publish it for everybody. We do not have to wait for Scally to scope matters; we can find that out very easily.

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On the same issue, the purpose of the Scally scoping inquiry is to get speedy access to the facts surrounding the CervicalCheck scandal and obtain information on the relative accuracy rates of the different labs concerned and the reason for variations in those rates. Last week, we heard that Dr. Scally still has not got access to that basic data. Can the Minister for Health tell us the reason for that? My understanding is that CervicalCheck can access that data within a matter of days from the labs concerned and that the matter is covered by the contracts. What is the reason for not providing that basic data to Dr. Scally and can the Minister step in to ensure that is done without any further delay?

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Section 40 of the Health Act 2007 gives me, as Minister, the ability to request any information and to make that information available to a person appointed by me to investigate or examine such a matter. I received correspondence from the HSE on 26 June seeking section 40. I responded favourably on 27 June, the next day. My understanding is, and I note public comments from Dr. Scally to this effect in recent days, that he has now been given all the information he requires to carry out his investigation. He also knows - I have said it to him face to face, on the telephone and I say it again now in the House - that if he has any difficulty obtaining any of the information, he has a direct line to me on that.

Regarding the issue of the lab data, my understanding is that some data on the labs had been shared with the Joint Committee on Health. Dr. Scally has a job of work to do. We cannot appoint somebody to examine all this information, with the expertise that they have and, frankly, we do not have, and then try to predetermine that. Dr. Scally's work is that of a scoping inquiry. It is the Government's intention to establish a commission of investigation in September. We do have to allow Dr. Scally do his work and make his determinations.

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I asked the Minister, the HSE and the Minister for Finance that question long before we heard of Scally.

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We cannot have a series of questions.

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Can I have the answer? I am asking only about 221 tests.

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I take it the Minister is not providing the information.

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I have answered the question.

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The Minister has not.

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I have asked for these results and I have written to the Minister about them.

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We have asked for that information and we have not received any replies.

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