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‹ An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business

Order of Business

Summary

The Government outlined Tuesday and Wednesday business, including Finance Bill 2025, private members’ motions and statements. Members then objected, raised a proposed debate on remarks about barristers and the legal profession, and Sinn Féin’s amendment on Tusla, IPAS and deportations was discussed before the arrangements were put again and defeated.

Mary Butler Minister of State at the Department of the Taoiseach Fianna Fáil

I move:

Tuesday's business shall be:

- Motion re Fifth Report of the Committee of Selection (without debate)

- Finance Bill 2025 (Second Stage) (to conclude within 3 hours and 34 minutes; any division claimed to be taken no earlier than 7 p.m.)

Tuesday's private members' business shall be the Motion re Irish Unity, selected by Sinn Féin.

Wednesday's business shall be:

- Statements on Men's Health (not to exceed 2 hours and 25 minutes)

- Statements on Fisheries (not to exceed 3 hours and 32 minutes)

Wednesday's private members' business shall be the Motion re Office of the President, selected by Independent Technical Group.

Proposed Arrangements for this week’s business:

In relation to Tuesday’s business, it is proposed that:

1. the ordinary routine of business as contained in Schedule 3 to Standing Orders shall be modified to the following extent:

(a) the Dáil may sit later than 10.48 p.m.;

(b) in the event that Second Stage of the Finance Bill 2025 concludes before 7 p.m., the sitting shall stand suspended until 7 p.m., and any division claimed on the proceedings on Second Stage of the Finance Bill 2025 shall be taken no earlier than 7 p.m.;

(c) the weekly division time shall be taken on Tuesday 21st October, 2025, either on the conclusion of proceedings on Second Stage of the Finance Bill 2025, or at 7 p.m., whichever is the later: Provided that where questions on the Finance Bill 2025 are subject to divisions, the weekly division time shall be taken on the conclusion of all such divisions; and

(d) private members' business may be taken later than 6.12 p.m. and shall in any event be taken on conclusion of the weekly division time, with consequential effect on the commencement times for Parliamentary Questions to the Tánaiste and Minister for Foreign Affairs and Trade, and topical issues;

2. the proceedings on the Motion re Fifth Report of the Standing Committee of Selection shall be taken without debate; and

3. the proceedings on the Second Stage of the Finance Bill 2025 shall be brought to a conclusion after 3 hours and 34 minutes and the following arrangements shall apply:

(a) the arrangements for the first speaking round shall be in accordance with those contained in the table immediately below (to be read across, not down);

(b) on the conclusion of the first speaking round or where speeches conclude before the 3 hours and 24 minutes have elapsed and no other member is offering, a Minister or Minister of State shall be called upon to make a speech in reply which shall not exceed 10 minutes, whereupon proceedings shall be brought to a conclusion; and

(c) members may share time.

In relation to Wednesday's business and the arrangements for the week’s business, it is proposed that:

1. (1) the ordinary routine of business as contained in Schedule 3 to Standing Orders shall be modified to the following extent:

(a) there shall be no suspension of sitting pursuant to Standing Order 25(1) and Government business shall commence at the time when the SOS would normally be taken; and

(b) the Dáil shall adjourn on conclusion of the Statements on Fisheries;

(2) the Dáil on its rising shall adjourn until 2 p.m. on Tuesday 4th November, 2025; and

(3) in relation to the Parliamentary Questions pursuant to Standing Order 47(1) which would have been taken on Thursday 23rd October, the following arrangements shall apply:

(a) the Questions to the Minister for Finance shall be taken on a future date to be ordered by the House;

(b) the Questions to the Minister for Public Expenditure, Infrastructure, Public Service Reform and Digitalisation shall be taken on Wednesday, 5th November, 2025; and

(c) the allocation of priority Questions to either Minister shall not be affected by these moves, nor shall the rota of Ministers or rota for priority Questions be affected;

2. the Statements on Men's Health shall not exceed 2 hours and 25 minutes and the order of speaking and allocation of time shall be as follows:

(a) the arrangements for the statements, not including the Ministerial response, shall be in accordance with the arrangements contained in the table immediately below (to be read across, not down);

(b) following the statements, a Minister or Minister of State shall be called upon to make a statement in reply which shall not exceed 10 minutes; and

(c) members may share time; and

3. the Statements on Fisheries shall not exceed 3 hours and 32 minutes and the order of speaking and allocation of time shall be as follows:

(a) the arrangements for the statements, not including the Ministerial response, shall be in accordance with the arrangements contained in the table immediately below (to be read across, not down);

(b) following the statements, a Minister or Minister of State shall be called upon to make a statement in reply which shall not exceed 10 minutes; and

(c) members may share time.

Comment on this
Verona Murphy An Ceann Comhairle Independent

Are the proposed arrangements for the week's business agreed?

Comment on this
Verona Murphy An Ceann Comhairle Independent

I call Deputy Paul Murphy.

Comment on this

Can I ask whether we are going to schedule a debate about the new principle being espoused by a presidential candidate that TDs should have to declare previous professional work relating to a topic before speaking on it in the Dáil? For example, the Minister of justice, who I thought spoke well on this yesterday, would have to declare, before he spoke about violence, if he was ever involved in defending a murderer. It would then be assumed that he was sympathetic to murderers as a result. Does the Government not propose to pursue this and disagree with their candidate for President?

Comment on this

There are a number of barristers in this Dáil. One of them, our Minister for justice, has expressed his concerns about the attempts to undermine our justice system. It is important that we deal with that this week. There should be statements with questions to defend that system. Of course, the Minister for justice himself was attacked politically in this regard and he knows what it feels like.

Comment on this
Patrick O'Donovan Minister for Culture, Communications and Sport Fine Gael

We will have a debate on the Special Criminal Court while you are at it.

Comment on this
Conor D McGuinness Deputy Conor D. McGuinness Sinn Féin

Why is Fine Gael undermining law and order?

Comment on this
Verona Murphy An Ceann Comhairle Independent

Deputy Gannon, please. One voice.

Comment on this

I ask for a debate on the co-ordinated attacks by Government parties on the legal profession. It is a dark week in this House and it is important that Members of the Government reaffirm their commitment to the rule of law, which they have undermined this week in a shoddy attempt-----

Comment on this

Our party strongly echoes those concerns, as raised previously.

Comment on this

Last night, a ten-year-old Irish girl under Tusla care was allegedly sexually assaulted on the grounds of the Citywest Hotel, a facility housing asylum seekers. The suspect, an asylum applicant with a deportation order, had remained in the country despite being refused protection earlier this year, making the attacker here an illegal immigrant. The people are rightly alarmed. We need an urgent and honest debate here today on immigration policy, or as soon as possible.

Comment on this

An honest debate about what? I did not hear the Deputy.

Comment on this

I seek to table an amendment to the Order of Business under Standing Order 35(3) to allow for questions to the Ministers for children and justice on the crisis in Tusla and IPAS and on the circumstances that led to Tusla losing a ten-year-old child yesterday and the alleged shocking crime, the murder of a child in Tusla care last week and the ongoing scandal of asylum seekers who have received deportation orders but have not been deported.

Comment on this

I have heard the views of the various Opposition Whips in relation to barristers. Tomorrow morning, as everybody is aware, there is a Private Members' motion on the Office of the President. I am sure there is ample time there if somebody wants to raise an issue.

On the question to the Minister in regard to Standing Order 35(3) that has just been raised, at the moment the gardaí are involved. There is a criminal investigation and I have no doubt the Minister will come into the House when it is the right time to do so.

Comment on this

It is for the Minister for children also.

Comment on this
Verona Murphy An Ceann Comhairle Independent

Are the proposed arrangements agreed to?

Comment on this
Deputies

Not agreed.

Comment on this
Division Carried

Question put: "That the amendment to the arrangements on the Order of Business are hereby negatived and the proposed arrangements for the week's business are hereby agreed to."

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