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Dáil
‹ An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business (Resumed)

Tusla independent review

Summary

Deputy Farrelly called for a full independent review of Tusla, citing concerns from social workers, judges and young people in care. The Taoiseach said reviews should not paralyse organisations, though he accepted there are serious problems and special care issues.

Verona Murphy An Ceann Comhairle Independent

Deputy Farrelly is next.

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It is time for Tusla to undergo a complete and independent review. I have heard from too many social workers in Tusla who are worried about the reforms recently undertaken. We have heard from too many judges who are frustrated at a lack of action regarding court orders and, most recently, we have heard from too many young people who have shared their harrowing experiences of involvement in State care. Does the Taoiseach have full and unreserved confidence in Tusla because I do not? We must be able to trust Tusla's culture, governance and operations. That is why I am asking the Taoiseach, not to listen to me but to the young people who shared their experiences last week. Will the Taoiseach initiate an independent review of Tusla so we can have full confidence in our national Child and Family Agency?

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First, we need to continue to work with Tusla. It is all great calling for independent reviews, inquiries and everything. That just paralyses organisations. That is the other side of that coin. We have to deal with children now who need care today, tomorrow or the day after. A balance needs to be struck in terms of how we deal with this. There are very serious issues here and all is not well in certain aspects, particularly in terms of special care and particular individuals who need very specialist care. However, if we keep putting every organisation endlessly under a microscope, then where is the space to actually get things done, improve the organisation and build up confidence? There are thousands and thousands of cases. There were 106,000 child protection and welfare referrals. That is enormous. That is an increase of 10% on 2024, and is driven by domestic violence, homelessness, addiction, criminal activity, sexual exploitation and mental health challenges. I think of a lot of the people who work in Tusla too because they are at the coalface of very challenging situations. I fully respect the Deputy's perspective and why he is concerned.

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Verona Murphy An Ceann Comhairle Independent

The Taoiseach's time is up. Deputy Gogarty is next.

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The easiest thing we can do is call for reviews and have everybody investigating everybody else with everyone too afraid of their shadow to get things done.

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